Commons:Village pump/Archive/2025/11

Sourcing to Amgueddfa Cymru Images

Hi, What is the best way to source images from https://images.museumwales.ac.uk/, i.e. File:Underground roadway at Blaenserchan Colliery, 72529.jpg? I can't see a short URL, but long one like [1]. From the image ID, one can create URL like [2], but this doesn't link directly to the image page above. Shouldn't we have a template with the image ID as parameter? Thanks, Yann (talk) 17:24, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

@Yann: Does this form of URL work? https://images.museumwales.ac.uk/view-item?i=72529 And yeah, I think a source template would be great! (There doesn't seem to be one in Category:Source templates related to the United Kingdom.) Sam Wilson 11:17, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

@Samwilson: Yes, great! Thanks a lot. Yann (talk) 12:28, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

As {{Amgueddfa Cymru Images}} was created now, this seems solved. Prototyperspective (talk) 13:44, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

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Name of photographer

Anyone want to try and decipher this photographer's name and see if we have a Wikidata entry for them? I don't think my first try was accurate. File:Ruth Elise Bråten (1893-1976) and possibly her mother, Elisabeth Ruuth (1858-1945).jpg RAN (talk) 18:06, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

Why do you think that your attribution is wrong? The source apparently attributes it and 802 other photographs to E. Larsson (Skönvik). -- Asclepias (talk) 18:19, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

E. Larsson. --Rosenzweig τ 18:42, 1 November 2025 (UTC)

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I want to remove my comment on this deletion request, am I allowed to do it

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Israeli_Flag_except_star_is_replaced_With_Poop.jpg I wanna remove my comment to not be associated with it Rsidkdjsjs (talk) 00:38, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

I could redact the name and hide your name from the history. Abzeronow (talk) 02:18, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

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Cat-a-lot not showing in "Media search"

A few hours ago, the Cat-a-lot gadget stopped appearing in "Media Search," but it works in "Special:Search" and other situations. Is anyone else having the same problem? Thanks.

OK, it is working normal again, sorry and thank--JotaCartas (talk) 10:18, 6 November 2025 (UTC)s

Should have been asked Commons:Village pump/Technical. This is the wrong place. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:04, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

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Flag of the Cocos (Keeling) Islands

Hi there, I noticed File:Flag of Cocos (Keeling) Islands.svg got deleted, with rationale a broken redirect. When trying to fix this on an article where this was used, I found File:Flag of the Cocos (Keeling) Islands.png which has the description "English: Flag of the Cocos (Keeling) Islands.svg". Something messed up has happened here, my guess is that a few people had good intentions and now many wikis have broken links. (The file is a png, not a svg, and there was a redirect that pointed the svg filename to the png file. The redirect got removed, and now there's an issue. Can someone look into this? Milliped (talk) 11:27, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

Hang on a minute. The SVG was deleted for copyright reasons; see Commons:Deletion requests/File:Flag of the Cocos (Keeling) Islands.svg. Surely those reasons apply to the raster versions as well? Omphalographer (talk) 19:09, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

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Is this image public domain?

I believe it to be PD, because it was made by AI and published by the White House (although I can’t find the link). Does anyone want to migrate it to commons? https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115158096026629509 Victorgrigas (talk) 13:35, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

Meh. Geoffroi 00:54, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

I don't think it is clear that this is PD. The image was posted by Donald Trump, not the White House, and there are no indications that this is AI-generated. Thanks. Tvpuppy (talk) 01:54, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

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Category for WP bugs

I wanted to show an irritating bug in a screenshot, and I couldn't find an appropriate category for it, in the drop-down, then in the list of cats beginning with "Wikipedia...". It's self-evident I suppose, that an illustration of a bug speaks clearer than an awkward description. "Wikipedia [e.g.: – screenshots of bugs]" would be the most promising, intuitively most obvious beginning of a name for this sort of internal problems. MenkinAlRire (talk) 10:24, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

Added Category:Screenshots of Wikipedia bugs. Bidgee (talk) 10:27, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

yeah, it's the name, there is no possible auto-complete, if you expect "Wikipedia" would be the leading word in the category title (since there have to be other internal cats that document internal affairs and may be affiliated to screenshots of WP [and] bugs) – and I think I searched for "Screenshots", too. But, ok, I am not sure, so anyway, thank you very much for the immediate response. I hope, not to forget again. MenkinAlRire (talk) 10:39, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

I searched for "Screenshots of" and waited, the proposals in the dropdown did show "Wolfram Alpha", but no WP or WC:

File:WC Category Search for "Screenshot" with dropdown of proposals (20251107 Firefox).jpg

Even with "Screenshots of W" it took some time to appear amidst other auto-completes. MenkinAlRire (talk) 10:53, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

That's something on your end – on mine, the autocomplete immediately appears. You could ask about it at Commons:Village pump/Technical. Would be best to check whether videos load slow (see the thread #Videos loading slow? there). Moreover, in 2014 already a redirect from Category:Wikipedia bugs screenshots was created so entering Wikipedia or Wikipedia bug should autocomplete to the correct cat. If the problem persists, please create a new thread or move this thread to VP/T. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:32, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

When entering "cat:Wikipedia bug" or "cat:Screenshots of Wikipedia" in the top search instead of the HotCat category box, it also autocompletes to the correct cat. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:35, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, for your advice. MenkinAlRire (talk) 11:36, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

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Is there a Commons category for “Victim of a miscarriage of justice”?

On the German Wikipedia there is the category Opfer eines Justizirrtums. In English: “Victim of a miscarriage of justice”, Dutch: “Slachtoffer van een gerechtelijke dwaling”. I tried to find a category in Commons, but I could not. Does such a category exist? Wouter (talk) 16:51, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

@Wouterhagens Perhaps Category:Wrongfully convicted people? Tvpuppy (talk) 17:02, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

That category was not linked with Category:People wrongfully convicted of a crime (Q9573520). Fixed. A broader category doesn't seem to exist (yet) but it could be created (went through the English Wikipedia categories to check). Prototyperspective (talk) 17:08, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

Broader Category:Victims of Justice does exist though. Prototyperspective (talk) 17:09, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

(Renamed and moved to Category:Victims of injustice) --ReneeWrites (talk) 10:28, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

it's not commons category's job to document this piece of info. RoyZuo (talk) 11:27, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your opinion but this is also about making given people files/categories findable and a very reasonable category to have (albeit there probably is an issue with its state of completion). One can simply add the categories the corresponding Wikipedia category has. Prototyperspective (talk) 11:46, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

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Question about categorization

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I have a question about COM:OVERCAT and how it applies to categories for Quality, Valued, or Featured images. Since these are hidden categories, are they considered a separate kind of category from mainspace ones? Specifically, if a quality image belongs to category X, can it be included in both "X" and "Quality images of X", or should it only be placed in "Quality images of X"? ReneeWrites (talk) 08:30, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

A problem of the overcat policy is that when files are located in one subcategory of a category but also belong into a or multiple other subcategories, they're gone from the category. For example, if people categorize files by say year but the files are then missing in the by subject subcategories. I think the same issue exists here – afaik so far no exceptions are made and when categorizing one needs to go through many or all subcategories, e.g. using the deepcategory search operator. Here, one could for example use deepcategory on the quality images of X category and -deepcategory for the subcategory the file should also be located in to find files still awaiting categorization into the latter subcategory branch. Furthermore, maybe these categories shouldn't be hidden to begin with. Prototyperspective (talk) 15:56, 3 November 2025 (UTC)

Personally, I'd place them in both categories, exactly because one is hidden. Being hidden is one of the reasons mentioned for why user categories are exempted from this rule, so I'd think the same applies to other hidden categories by that analogy. --HyperGaruda (talk) 20:33, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

Hidden categories are considered non-topical; OVERCAT with topical categories does not apply. - Jmabel ! talk 03:26, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, that's what I wanted to know :) ReneeWrites (talk) 09:49, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

COM:DIGNITY and attack ads

Is it okay to host media that goes against COM:DIGNITY if the media is an w:attack ad made by a political opponent as part of their political campaign? Trade (talk) 14:16, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

This totally depends on the individual case. A campaign against Trump is likely okay, the same against the mayor of a small town is not. GPSLeo (talk) 14:41, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

As that guidance says, you need to weigh up the educational merit of retaining the image, so it is impossible to make an ironclad ruling on a mere hypothetical situation. The issue will also be complicated if the subject is a living person. We host a large amount of historical propaganda that would struggle to pass COM:DIGNITY if made today. From Hill To Shore (talk) 14:42, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

Feel free to take a look at Category:Attack ads and tell me if it passes Trade (talk) 15:09, 2 November 2025 (UTC)

In this case, I'd say the educational use of an example of what a flailing campaign like Andrew Cuomo's would use against a political opponent expected to win would outweigh COM:DIGNITY issue from Mamdani's side but I am biased towards Mamdami. I'd certainly welcome other points of view on that though. Abzeronow (talk) 00:19, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

Acceptable source?

I want to know if the Supreme Court of India website is considered an acceptable source for free-use?

I am asking because before I have seen Indian office-holders' pics added to Commons from other similar government websites. Thanks! Kingsacrificer (talk) 18:21, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

If you are looking for copyright expertise, you are more likely to get a good answer at COM:VP/C.

Also, when referring to a website, it is very helpful to provide an URL. - Jmabel ! talk 06:26, 9 November 2025 (UTC)

I'm so sorry. I thought I had included the URL in the message. Here it is.

https://www.sci.gov.in/judge/justice-deepak-verma/

I'll also post it on COM:VP/C. Thanks! Kingsacrificer (talk) 06:32, 9 November 2025 (UTC)

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Merging categories

There should be a guideline on how to merge categories. The Candlelight Master and Maestro del Lume di Candela should be merged, but small font text in {{Move}} doesn't make it clear what I'm expected to do. Qbli2mHd (talk) 16:50, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

Not an answer to your question, but should these two categories not also be merged with Category:Trophime Bigot? --HyperGaruda (talk) 20:14, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

As I see it, the identification of the Candlelight Master with Bigot is contentious; Master Jacomo is another candidate, and all three are viewed as separate identities. Qbli2mHd (talk) 23:06, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

Depending on the case, people create a category for discussion. Especially because it can take years until these CfDs get closed and because still only few people provide input / contribute to CfDs, it can often be better to directly implement things yourself. There merging can be replacing one category's content with {{Category redirect}} and letting a bot after a short time automatically move the files and subcategories accordingly or to also also move these yourself as well using the cat-a-lot tool. If the target category doesn't already exist, one would use Tools->Move where one can also uncheck keeping a redirect. Prototyperspective (talk) 13:38, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

Adding footage

I'm not an expert, but is there any way to see if this footage is out of copyright? Looking for an image to illustrate the wikipedia:1949 PGA Championship page. Thank you,
Packer1028 (talk) 19:36, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

Their website says it's copyrighted [3]. Such claims aren't always true though, but with footage from 1949 from a British (?) source it's likely that the copyright claim is true, I'd say. The footage is rather recent and most countries have copyright durations of "70 years after the death of the author", so, if the author died in 1949, then it would have been PD in 2019 (or 2020). But how likely is it that the author died in the same year as the footage was created? If they only lived 6-7 years longer, until 1955/1956, then it wouldn't be PD yet. Nakonana (talk) 23:19, 4 November 2025 (UTC)

Please ask at Commons:Village pump/Copyright instead of here. Prototyperspective (talk) 00:05, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

@Packer1028 Commons:Copyright rules by territory/United Kingdom#Unknown author: "If the work was created before 1969 with an unknown author... If the work is unpublished and was first made available to the public after 1968 then copyright expires 70 years after the work was first made available to the public." RoyZuo (talk) 11:39, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

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File error

I uploaded this file to Commons, however it says "The media playback was aborted due to a corruption problem or because the media used features your browser did not support." How can this be fixed? PublicDomainFan08 (talk) 19:43, 5 November 2025 (UTC)

On Firefox, I hear the audio fine, but see only black. - Jmabel ! talk 03:30, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure how to fix it. If an admin knows how to fix it, I'll be more than happy to help them. PublicDomainFan08 (talk) 03:32, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

yeah broken file. ffmpeg reports

:[vp9 @ 0x91f0b8380] zero_bit out of range: 1, but must be in [0,0].
:[vp9 @ 0x91f0b8380] Failed to read unit 0 (type 0).
:[vp9 @ 0x91f0b8380] Failed to read frame header.
:[vp9 @ 0x91f0b8380] Not all references are available
:[matroska,webm @ 0x91ec1c000] decoding for stream 0 failed
:[matroska,webm @ 0x91ec1c000] Could not find codec parameters for stream 0 (Video: vp9 (Profile 0), none(tv, gbr/bt709/bt709, progressive), 1280x720): unspecified pixel format
:Consider increasing the value for the 'analyzeduration' (0) and 'probesize' (5000000) options
:

—TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:32, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

Can it be fixed by any chance? PublicDomainFan08 (talk) 09:33, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

Took quite a bit, but with some help (AI) noticed that the original file uses a pretty unconventional colorspace (gbr) and apparently this confuses the encoder. Made it work by specifying the transcode as: ffmpeg -i "(Clip_1.1)_MEDIA_REDACTED_91_I_95_N.mp4" -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pix_fmt yuv420p -colorspace bt709 -color_primaries bt709 -color_trc bt709 -c:a libopus output.webm —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 10:18, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

Should have been asked / moved to Commons:Village pump/Technical. This is the wrong place. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:03, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

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Categorization missing on Special:Upload

Has anyone else noticed the option to add categories to a file is no longer on Special:Upload today? - The Bushranger (talk) 00:17, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

Yes. The three files I just uploaded a few minutes ago had to be categorized after upload. I use the basic upload form. Geoffroi 01:48, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T409400

The problem is reported. GPSLeo (talk) 08:57, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

Should have been asked / moved to Commons:Village pump/Technical. This is the wrong place. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:04, 6 November 2025 (UTC)

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Uboot ---> U boat?

I found Special:Contributions/Mbarma993 which appear to be photos of U-boat bunkers. Do these need renaming? Can they he mass renamed? Thanks. Geoffroi 20:24, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

No, U-boot is just the German word for U boat. Per COM:LP, file names can be in any language. --HyperGaruda (talk) 20:41, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

Why should e.g. File:U-Bootbunker Fink 2 WW2 shelter 12.jpg be renamed? That's around Hamburg, and "U-Boot" is the usual German word for submarine. There's no need to use a historicizing "U-Boat"; the COM:FRNOT explicitly mandates a decline for language switches. Regards, Grand-Duc (talk) 20:42, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. I thought that might be the case. Geoffroi 21:00, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

The problem is that the filetitle is not entirely German or entirely English or both but a mix of German and English, in principle only fully understandable by the fraction of users who understand both German and English. Not good.

Moreover, the captions were declared to be German when they are actually in English – could somebody bulk-move them to the correct language / change the language for the captions? Prototyperspective (talk) 22:09, 7 November 2025 (UTC)

This is a common naming scheme: The proper name "U-Bootbunker Fink" is in German. Everything that is not a proper name is in English. GPSLeo (talk) 10:06, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

I have placed these 14 files in Category:U-Boot-Bunker Finkenwerder, let me know if this is incorrect. Jokulhlaup (talk) 09:14, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

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IP block on AWS eu-west-1?

I maintain a small free online game that uses images from WikiMedia Commons (https://wikipic.fun/). Recently, my requests to download a few images to create a new puzzle are blocked (HTTP error code 403). When I run the same download from my laptop, everything is fine. The game is hosted at AWS eu-west-1 region.

Could there be an IP ban of some sort? Maybe someone performed abuse from those data centers? Who can I contact?

This is an example of a request that now meets 403 (but all images behave the same): https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/PepsiCoHQPurchaseNY.jpg/250px-PepsiCoHQPurchaseNY.jpg

Teunduynstee (talk) 08:15, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

@Teunduynstee: Are you sending a user agent header with your requests? See foundation:Policy:Wikimedia Foundation User-Agent Policy. Sam Wilson 09:24, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

I use Axios from a node.js lambda function. I am not setting anything myself, so I assume the I get an axios/0.21.4 header. This has worked fine for years. This is how I call:

const imageBuffer = await axios({

method: 'get',

url: imageUrl,

responseType: 'arraybuffer'

}); Teunduynstee (talk) 16:45, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

Update: it seems you are right, Sam. When I try this from curl it fails too:

> GET /wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/93/PepsiCoHQPurchaseNY.jpg/250px-PepsiCoHQPurchaseNY.jpg HTTP/2

> Host: upload.wikimedia.org

> User-Agent: axios/0.24.1

> Accept: */*

>

• Request completely sent off

< HTTP/2 403

< content-length: 92

< content-type: text/plain

< x-request-id: 5cab256a-06ef-4f59-b8e8-b43cb4696751

< server: HAProxy

< x-cache: cp3074 int

< x-cache-status: int-tls

< x-analytics:

<

Please set a user-agent and respect our robot policy https://w.wiki/4wJS. See also T400119. Teunduynstee (talk) 16:57, 8 November 2025 (UTC)

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Uploading photos from another party who wants them shared under CC

This is a question I'm surprised isn't covered somewhere already. Maybe the instructions are out there, but apparently my search skills still suck after all these years.

I have a pair of photos I convinced the subject of an article to share under Creative Commons by creator. (My reasoning was that if her picture is on Commons where it is available for free, it will be the default photo used whenever someone writes about her. This guarantees a good picture will always be used.) I haven't done this before but I know one of the steps involves sending some kind of documentation to someone at the Foundation that the subject or creator agreed to this. Beyond that, I'm stymied.

Either please point me to the relevant page with the instructions, or provide me with the instructions. TYIA. -- llywrch (talk) 00:18, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

@Llywrch The guidance you are looking for is at Commons:Volunteer Response Team#Licensing images: when do I contact VRT?. From Hill To Shore (talk) 01:12, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

@Llywrch: also for a broader overview of related issues, see COM:THIRD. - Jmabel ! talk 23:09, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

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A bit off-topic but how do I learn to create gradiants in Inkscape?

Specifically I wish to learn to create a replica of the gradiant found on this website and upload it to Commons. (The gradiant in "Spectrum" menu in webpage https://redketchup.io/color-picker ) How could I do such with Inkscape? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jothefiredragon (talk • contribs) 04:42, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

https://inkscape-manuals.readthedocs.io/en/latest/creating-gradients.html ? - Jmabel ! talk 23:10, 10 November 2025 (UTC)

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